the explosive growth along with medicare. health care spending, are we going to be able to get a deal on that with republicans demagoguing it and democrats painting horns on paul ryan on the other side. >> that's a very interesting question. politico wrote a piece about the pret who put substantial medicare cuts on the table whelp he was negotiating with john boehner. now it's demagoguing on the republicans on medicare. he's going to have to go back around again and face this if he wants to do long-term entitlement reform. he's going to have to sell the same kind of medicare cuts that he once proposed, demagogued against and go back and sell. >> it's crazy. >> not to mention the woodward book that went through, in a piece that he hopes. >> and then john boehner has to go back to his all members in congress who had 30-second ads run against him for, quote, cutting medicare, proposing to cut medicare, and he'll say, now, listen, i know we talked about a grand bargain before, and i know that the president proposed these cuts to